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Welcome to the A World of Difference
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podcast. I'm Lori Adams Brown, and this is
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a podcast for those who are different and
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want to make a difference. Hi there. I'm
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coming to you today to talk about my
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exciting trip that I took with my teenager
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on a birthday trip. And the reason I'm
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doing this special episode today is
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because I've gotten several of you who've
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asked me questions about taking my teenage
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you're on a 16th birthday trip to Rio. We
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just got back not long ago from going to
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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, together. Just a
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mom teenager trip. And this is something
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that was very planned and special, and I
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know a lot of you had questions about it,
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and I do not at all consider myself to be
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a parenting expert. But I do know that
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once in a while, I have people in my life
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that do things that I also have questions
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about, and it revolves around how did you
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do that? That's a little bit unusual. How
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did you come to that conclusion? How did
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it go? What did you learn? Do you have any
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tips? So because I've been getting some
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questions about it, I thought, you know
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what, let's do an episode about this. So
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here it is. We're doing ten tips today on
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taking a birthday trip with your teenager
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as a parent. So, yeah, here we go. Tip
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number one is, from the beginning, I
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involved my teen. And so this meant
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discussing and involving my teenager in
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the trip, planning not only to just
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increase the excitement and get buy in,
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because any of you who are parenting
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teenagers know that sometimes the parent
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teenager relationship can be a little bit
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fraught at times. And if mom suggests it,
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then it may not be the best idea out
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there. But when I brought up the idea, it
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was all around a particular concept of a
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place that we could go that I knew that my
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teenager would enjoy. Also a place that I
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would enjoy. So I threw know pitched the
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idea of going to Rio, and it was already a
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win from the beginning. Now, that may not
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happen for you, but definitely involving
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your teenager can help increase the
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excitement and ensure the trip aligns with
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their interests. It just so happens that
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Taylor Swift was going to be playing in
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concert in Rio in November, and so it
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worked out to know be there for the Taylor
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Swift concert, which brought extreme buy
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in. Because if you're raising a Swifty
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like I am, then, you know, if you know,
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you know. So that worked out really well.
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And so, yeah, choosing the destination
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really was something I sort of did some
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legwork on ahead of time. Figured out this
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is a place that we could make work
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together. And so, fortunately, pitching
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the first place worked out. But my husband
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is planning a trip with our so we have
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twins, right? So the other twin and that's
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going to be a completely different
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location because that twin wants to go
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somewhere completely different. So knowing
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your teenager and when you pitch the idea,
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making sure it's something that you're
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pretty sure they would enjoy, but choosing
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the destination number two is that you
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want to consider destinations that cater
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to both your teenager's preferences and
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your own. So if it had been somewhere that
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I absolutely hated, I wouldn't have
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brought that up. It didn't have to be my
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absolute favorite place, but something
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that I could somewhat enjoy, too. You
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definitely don't want to be the kind of
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parent that's like, here's my favorite
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place and you try to persuade them to do
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it. That's not a good idea. It probably
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wouldn't work anyway, and if it did, it
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would just make you a really manipulative
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parent. So don't advise that. But yeah,
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finding a win win, hopefully is always
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possible, but also finding a balance
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between fun activities for them and a
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little bit of time for you to relax. Both
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of you as well, because especially if
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you're going somewhere like we did, 5
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hours difference in the time zone and just
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the long amount of travel. We flew through
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Panama and had a layover in Panama City,
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Panama, and then flew to Rio from there.
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And it was just a long couple of long
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know. So we were tired when we arrived.
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And then also the jet lag of five hour
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time difference. We wanted to plan in some
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time to relax as well as do fun things.
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And the third one is budgeting and
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planning. Unless you're know the very few
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people in the world that have so much
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money they don't have to think about that.
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Most of us have to stick to a budget and
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plan that out. And so discussing that with
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your teenager ahead of time is really
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important. So that not only are you
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teaching them how to be financially
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responsible, but you're showing them how
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you can have money in your budget for
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travel. It just so happens in the Adams
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Brown family budget, we prioritize travel
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in ways that maybe not everybody does.
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It's just a high value for our family.
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We're all third culture kids. We've not
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grown up in families where we just owned
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one home and one place for our whole
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lives. We grew up traveling and moving
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around and travel was important to our
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families of origin growing up, and we've
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raised our kids that way. So you'll
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definitely find in our home, we don't
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prioritize home decor or nice cars. We
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have really old cars that we drive. We
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keep them well maintained. We have a great
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mechanic, but we don't spend a lot of
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money on things that some Americans might
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typically spend more money on. And so we
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do prioritize travel also. I do have a lot
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of skills when it comes to traveling
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frugally mainly because of my whole life
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traveling. So I know how to do certain
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things cheaply or use my points here and
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there. And so in our difference maker
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community, I'm going to go into way more
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detail about this trip and how I used some
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of my Frugal savvy skills that I've honed
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over the years of doing a lot of travel
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and learning from other people along the
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way in my Expat and TCK life. But because
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none of those people sponsor my podcast,
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I'll do that for our paid difference maker
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community. And if you want to check that
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out, you can go to Patreon.com A World of
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Difference, and we'll have an exclusive
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episode there where I go into way more
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detail about where we stayed, how we did
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the flights, and how we did all of that to
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make it work. So if you're interested in
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more detail with that, we'll do that
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there. But yeah, budgeting and planning
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number three is really important as you do
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this trip together, because it not only
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teaches your teenager how to plan, and it
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also involves them in the decision making
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of how you're going to spend the money.
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And that always feels better than mom or
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dad making all the decisions. And then
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you've got a grumpy teenager because they
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didn't want to spend the money that way,
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and it really was their birthday trip. So
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letting them call the shots within reason
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and showing them how much different things
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cost and showing them different options.
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For my teenager, there was a huge desire
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to Jet ski. And so that was something we
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had hoped we would put into our budget,
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and we had that as a plan. But when we got
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to Brazil, we realized you have to have a
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driver's license in order to drive a Jet
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Ski in the ocean in Brazil. So since my
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teenager was not yet 16, didn't have their
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driver's license yet, we had to say, oh, I
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guess we'll do that next time. But we
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wanted to make sure together we made a
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plan that was something that was fun for
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both of us. On the budget number four,
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balancing independence and guidance. This
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is huge with teenagers. Once again, I'm
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not a parenting expert, so go to the
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researchers and the people with PhDs
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writing books about that out there to find
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more detailed information about this. But
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I do know the basic parts that teenagers
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really crave independence, but they also
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might need some guidance here and there.
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Their frontal lobes are not yet developed,
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and so they might not understand
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particular risks involved in certain
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things, for example. So, yeah, finding the
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right balance between giving them space
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and being responsible really is really
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crucial in all parenting, but especially
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in a trip like this, I don't know, like in
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my work that I do as a senior manager in a
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tech company, I think about stretch
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assignments that I give people. And so
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think about this birthday trip as an
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opportunity for a little bit of a stretch
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assignment with them where you're sort of
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doing this model assist, watch and leave
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approach with them. So you're giving them
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a little more freedom than you would
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otherwise give them, but you're not just
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like throwing them out of the nest and
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saying, bye, do your own thing, because
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they do need a little guidance still,
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especially at 15, almost 16. So the fifth
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thing is just when we think about using
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technology during the trip, every parent
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does this differently. There's no manual.
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My twins were certainly not born with
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little manuals, and we're all trying to
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figure this out. I think every parent is
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going to want to figure out how to set
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boundaries and rules around technology
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that they use during the trip to ensure
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that they're present and engaged in the
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experience. But also, I know that my
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teenager really loves a lot of particular
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social media and so they wanted to make
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sure, especially during the Taylor Swift
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concert, they were making videos, that
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they wanted to be able to capture that
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moment and show their friends when they
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got back to school. And so we planned
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technology around, bringing extra battery
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chargers for phones because we knew we
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were going to be in a three hour concert
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and get there earlier and be in long line.
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So it's going to be like a four plus hour
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ordeal in making sure we plan that they
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were going to be on their phone while they
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were enjoying the concert because that was
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sort of the experience they wanted to
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have. And that's what it means to be a
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teenager in 2023, doesn't it? Also number
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six is think through the activities and
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experiences you're going to have together,
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plan activities that really cater to their
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interest. So if they love adventure sports
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like I mentioned jet skiing, they love
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cultural experiences or just exploring new
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places. My teenager and me, we don't have
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the exact same preferences. So there was
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one morning where my teenager just really
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was tired and wanted to sleep in. And so I
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left them in the hotel to get some extra
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sleep that they needed and went on an
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early tour from my hotel where they picked
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me up and dropped me off. And I did the
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Cristo rentor, the big Christ, the
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Redeemer Statue, and saw the Maracana
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Stadium where the Brazilian football team
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plays and where the World Cup was held and
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this beautiful cathedral. But my teenager
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wasn't super interested in those things
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and it was time they'd rather spend
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sleeping. So we kind of worked that out
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between us. But everything that my
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teenager wanted to do, I was there with
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them. Because I'm an adult, I did need my
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sleep. But also I was like, I'm in Brazil,
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I just want to do it all. We have
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different personalities when it comes to
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that, so accommodating that with each
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other was important. And then also number
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seven, it's important to really document
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your trip. So I involved my teenager in
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this. There were times where I took
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pictures and my teenager's like, I don't
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like how I look in that photos. And so I
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was like, okay, I'll delete that or I
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won't post that one. But also they took
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pictures of me and have videos of me. And
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so we were able to document our fun times
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together. We went onto Copa Cabana Beach
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at night and ate seafood by the beach and
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then walked onto the beach and took some
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fun photos there. And it's important.
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forever. And who knows, maybe my grandkids
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great grandkids will see those and see
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that we were on Copacabana Beach together
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back in the day. When we have a 15 year
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old in the photo who's now 80, I don't
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know. These are important things to
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document. These are once in a lifetime
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opportunities. And as our teenagers are
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growing up, we want to capture those
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moments. It's really important. And then
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it also helps to tell the rest of the
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family, here's the videos, here's what we
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did. And it kind of helps you do the
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storytelling process together and relive
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it and it's a lot of fun. The 8th one is
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to be flexible and anytime there's travel
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anywhere, that's important, but especially
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with international travel. So being open
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to changes and plans or unexpected detours
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that could happen, like the jet skiing
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obviously didn't work out and we were able
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to pivot and do something else. And that
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included doing something in the spa, which
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was a lot of fun. So we were glad that
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that budget could go to something else,
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which was super fun. Sometimes the most
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memorable experiences happen when our
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plans go awry and we were able to find
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some other things to do which we wouldn't
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have done otherwise. So number nine is
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just respect their wishes. This is a
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teenager, it's not an infant. Your teen
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may want to spend some alone time and you
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don't have to be vigilant with them all
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the time. Or if you're in a place where
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they know people, they might want to spend
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time with their friends during part of the
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trip. So just respect their wishes while
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you're making sure that they're safe. And
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number ten is reflecting and bonding.
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After the trip, it's important to take
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time to reflect together on our
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experiences. And sharing our thoughts and
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feelings can really strengthen our bonds
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together. I know from my teenager, when my
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husband asked me about the trip, when we
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got back, one of the things I said to him
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was we have a very different relationship
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now than before we took this trip. And
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there's something about this trip that we
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had a special bond, just the two of us.
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We'd never been just the two of us for
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that long, away from the rest of our
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immediate family. And also being twins,
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this was like the longest they'd been
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apart from each other, too. And so it was
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very special that we had this time
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together, an experience that only we went
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through together, especially the Taylor
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Swift concert, which was incredible. And
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it rained the entire time we got out of
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the taxi and there was a guy there selling
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ponchos, and we immediately put these
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ponchos on and wore them for a while, but
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we got soaked. Even his ponchos, it was
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just like so rainy and crazy. But my
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teenager was such a Swiftie, they were
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screaming so much of the time. And then
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there's this moment when Taylor Swift came
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up and sang right to my teenager, and I'm
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not sure they're ever going to get over
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it. It was pretty crazy during the song
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Antihero, which is up for a Grammy, and it
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was super special. And we went through
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that together, and we experienced that
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together. And I think there's something
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especially about music and international
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travel, trying new foods. We had a lot of
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acai, we had a lot of Brazilian steak,
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which is amazing, and just fun
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experiences. We were in a heat wave in
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Rio, where they had to the first night of
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the Taylor Swift concert you probably read
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about in the news because it was all over
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the news. Several people passed out from
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the heat, and one person actually passed
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away. Her name was Anna. And then the
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second night, the Saturday night concert,
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they ended up canceling. And our concert
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was the next night, the Sunday night, and
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it had cooled down about ten degrees
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Fahrenheit and then was raining, and so it
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was able to go on. And they changed the
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rule with the stadium where they could
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provide free water and open up the airways
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a little bit to get more airflow. So it
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was great. Other than the rain, we
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couldn't complain. We were completely
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hydrated. My teenager also got a
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friendship bracelet from Sabrina
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Carpenter's mom, who Sabrina Carpenter
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opened for Taylor Swift, and Taylor
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Swift's dad was handing out these Taylor
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Swift guitar picks, and my teenager got
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one of those too, so it was very special.
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So my teenagers coming back, telling all
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their teenage friends at their high school
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about all they did, and I overhear them
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say, and then my mom was there, and it was
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really special that I got to experience
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that with my teenagers. So, yeah. I offer
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all of this to you as just a story of what
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we experienced, some tips we came up with
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together, things that we would do again in
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terms of how to do a trip like this and
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once again join our difference maker
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community. If you want to hear more
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details about how I specifically planned
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this out by using points and which hotel I
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chose, there's a lot of options in Rio
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specifically, if you're thinking of going
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there. So there's Copacabana Beach.
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There's Ipanema. There's another few
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smaller, lesser known beaches. All around
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and then there's the city of Rio itself.
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And so we had all these different choices.
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So I'll going to more detail about why we
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chose to stay, where we did, what airline
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we flew, how we made that work, the routes
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we took, and the things we decided to do
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when we were there. So we'll talk a little
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bit more about that and our Difference
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able to access there and it's a lot of
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fun. We love the difference maker
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community. So I do. It means a lot to me
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and I appreciate every one of you who are
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there and how we go a little bit deeper.
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So, yeah, we'll go deeper onto some Lori's
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travel tips around this. We'll do a
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special episode there just for you
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Difference makers. Anyway, I hope this was
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helpful. If it was, please let me know
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also if you have additional tips or have
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taken a trip with your own teenager or
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also just love birthday trips in general,
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which I personally do most years. When I
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ask for something for my birthday, I just
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say I want a trip for the last many years
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because I'm more of a trip person than a
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present person, more of a collector of
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memories and experiences and things. So
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that means a lot to me and I was glad to
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do it with my teenager, too, this time on
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16th birthday, which is kind of a big
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deal. So, yeah, let me hear from you. Let
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us know if you have your own stories, your
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own tips. And yeah, in the meantime, I
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know there's a lot of travel going on
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around this holiday season, so if you have
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more tips on traveling in general, let us
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know about those on social media. You can
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find the Aworld of Difference podcast on
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can find us on Twitter at awadpod awodpod.
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And you can find me on Twitter at loriadbr
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or Instagram at brown. Yeah, we'd love to
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hear from you also on threads on both of
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those as well. So, yeah, reach out. Let me
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know if you have any thoughts around this
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episode, if it brought up any stories in
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your own experience that you'd love to
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share. And we can share tips with each
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other about how to take trips with your
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teenager, especially on a birthday trip.
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Anyway, for all of you who are
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celebrating, lots of things out there,
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whether it's birthdays, getting ready for
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Advent, Christmas, Hanukah, a lot of
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Americans just celebrated Thanksgiving. I
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know there's a lot of celebrating going on
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everywhere. Enjoy time with your family
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and loved ones and friends and also take
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care of yourself. Hopefully you can get
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some rest and enjoy some of this travel
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and celebrating too, because a lot of you
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