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Dec. 1, 2023

Beyond Material Gifts: Celebrating Birthdays Through International Travel with Your Teenager

Beyond Material Gifts: Celebrating Birthdays Through International Travel with Your Teenager

Join me in this thrilling episode of the A World of Difference podcast as I share my unforgettable experience of taking a birthday trip to Rio de Janeiro with my teenager. From attending a Taylor Swift concert to unexpected twists, this journey will leave you hanging on the edge of your seat, wondering how it all unfolds. Get ready for a rollercoaster ride of emotions, because sometimes, even the best-laid plans can take an unexpected turn.


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In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover how to engage teenagers in international birthday trip planning.
  • Learn how to balance independence and guidance effectively.
  • Maximize technology usage to enhance the trip experience.
  • Create unforgettable moments with the power of music.
Involving your teenager in the trip planning not only increases excitement but also ensures the trip aligns with their interests. - Lori Adams-Brown


Engage your teen in trip planning

Making your teenager a part of the trip planning process not only sparks their enthusiasm but also caters to their specific interests, enhancing their overall experience. With their involvement, mutual interests are considered, resulting in a journey that strikes a balance between their preferences and yours. This tactic promotes valuable life skills like decision-making and financial responsibility, setting them up for future success.


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  • Check out Lori Adams-Brown's recommended resources for parenting teenagers, including books by researchers and experts in the field.
  • Set boundaries and rules around technology use during trips to ensure presence and engagement, while also allowing for capturing special moments through photos and videos.
  • Plan activities and experiences that cater to your teenager's interests, whether it's adventure sports, cultural experiences, or exploring new places.
  • Document your trip by taking photos and videos, and involve your teenager in the process to capture memories that will last a lifetime.
  • Consider joining the A World of Difference Difference Maker community on www.Patreon.com/AWorldofDifference for access to additional content and resources related to parenting teenagers and making a difference.
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Finding a win-win destination that caters to both your teenager's preferences and your own is key to a successful birthday trip. - Lori Adams-Brown


Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction

Lori Adams Brown introduces the podcast episode and explains that she will be discussing her recent trip to Rio de Janeiro with her teenager for their 16th birthday.


00:01:07 - Tip #1: Involve Your Teenager

Lori emphasizes the importance of involving the teenager in the trip planning process to increase excitement and ensure the trip aligns with their interests.


00:03:08 - Tip #2: Consider Destinations for Both

Lori advises considering destinations that cater to both the teenager's preferences and the parent's interests to create a win-win situation. She also emphasizes the importance of balancing fun activities for the teenager with relaxation for both parties.


00:03:53 - Tip #3: Budgeting and Planning

Lori discusses the importance of budgeting and planning for the trip, involving the teenager in financial decision-making, and teaching them financial responsibility. She mentions that travel is a priority for her family and shares her frugal travel tips.


00:07:06 - Tip #4: Balancing Independence and Guidance

Lori highlights the need to find a balance between giving the teenager independence and providing guidance, especially considering their developing frontal lobes. She suggests treating the trip as a "stretch assignment" for the teenager, giving them more freedom but still offering guidance.


00:13:26 - Experiencing Brazil and Taylor Swift Concert

The host shares her experience of traveling to Brazil with her teenagers, trying new foods, and attending a Taylor Swift concert. She mentions the heat wave in Rio, where some people passed out and one person passed away. The concert was initially canceled but was able to proceed on the following night with improved conditions.


00:14:46 - Special Moments at the Concert

The host's teenager received a friendship bracelet from Sabrina Carpenter's mom and a Taylor Swift guitar pick from Taylor Swift's dad at the concert. The host expresses how special it was to experience such moments with her teenagers and overhear them sharing the experience with their friends.


00:15:19 - Planning the Trip to Rio

The host offers to share more details about how she planned the trip, including using points for flights and choosing a hotel in Rio. She mentions the various beach options, such as Copacabana and Ipanema, and the activities they decided to do while in Rio.


00:16:04 - Birthday Trips and Collecting Memories

The host shares that she often asks for a trip for her birthday instead of material gifts, as she values collecting memories and experiences. She encourages listeners to share their own stories and tips for traveling with teenagers, especially for birthday trips.


00:17:35 - Seasonal Celebrations and Self-Care

The host acknowledges the various celebrations happening during the holiday season and encourages listeners to enjoy time with loved ones while


Balancing independence and guidance during the trip creates a valuable opportunity for growth and strengthening the parent-teenager relationship. - Lori Adams-Brown


Discover the magic of Rio

Rio de Janeiro offers a myriad of opportunities for an unforgettable experience, bestowing unforgettable memories and diverse cultural insights. This vibrant Brazilian city enamors visitors with its breathtaking landscapes, diverse culinary scene, and warm local population. Unveiling the magic of Rio during an international birthday trip with a teenager can solidify familial bonds and provide a valuable exposure to a vibrant global culture.


Engage your teen in trip planning

Making your teenager a part of the trip planning process not only sparks their enthusiasm but also caters to their specific interests, enhancing their overall experience. With their involvement, mutual interests are considered, resulting in a journey that strikes a balance between their preferences and yours. This tactic promotes valuable life skills like decision-making and financial responsibility, setting them up for future success.


Strike the perfect balance

Finding the right equilibrium between providing guidance and granting independence to your teenager on a trip can be challenging, yet deeply rewarding. This delicate balance allows them to explore, make decisions, and learn while knowing that your support is readily available. Travel experiences like these can serve as a 'stretch assignment,' allowing your teenager to broaden their horizon while still under the safety net of your presence.


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Transcript
1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,458 Welcome to the A World of Difference 2 00:00:04,458 --> 00:00:06,766 podcast. I'm Lori Adams Brown, and this is 3 00:00:06,766 --> 00:00:08,606 a podcast for those who are different and 4 00:00:08,606 --> 00:00:12,942 want to make a difference. Hi there. I'm 5 00:00:12,942 --> 00:00:15,834 coming to you today to talk about my 6 00:00:15,834 --> 00:00:17,726 exciting trip that I took with my teenager 7 00:00:17,726 --> 00:00:19,854 on a birthday trip. And the reason I'm 8 00:00:19,854 --> 00:00:21,406 doing this special episode today is 9 00:00:21,406 --> 00:00:23,054 because I've gotten several of you who've 10 00:00:23,054 --> 00:00:25,266 asked me questions about taking my teenage 11 00:00:25,266 --> 00:00:28,646 you're on a 16th birthday trip to Rio. We 12 00:00:28,646 --> 00:00:31,074 just got back not long ago from going to 13 00:00:31,074 --> 00:00:35,622 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, together. Just a 14 00:00:35,622 --> 00:00:38,774 mom teenager trip. And this is something 15 00:00:38,774 --> 00:00:42,050 that was very planned and special, and I 16 00:00:42,050 --> 00:00:43,674 know a lot of you had questions about it, 17 00:00:43,674 --> 00:00:45,978 and I do not at all consider myself to be 18 00:00:45,978 --> 00:00:49,274 a parenting expert. But I do know that 19 00:00:49,274 --> 00:00:51,306 once in a while, I have people in my life 20 00:00:51,306 --> 00:00:53,210 that do things that I also have questions 21 00:00:53,210 --> 00:00:55,566 about, and it revolves around how did you 22 00:00:55,566 --> 00:00:58,286 do that? That's a little bit unusual. How 23 00:00:58,286 --> 00:00:59,598 did you come to that conclusion? How did 24 00:00:59,598 --> 00:01:01,386 it go? What did you learn? Do you have any 25 00:01:01,386 --> 00:01:03,742 tips? So because I've been getting some 26 00:01:03,742 --> 00:01:05,714 questions about it, I thought, you know 27 00:01:05,714 --> 00:01:08,306 what, let's do an episode about this. So 28 00:01:08,306 --> 00:01:10,914 here it is. We're doing ten tips today on 29 00:01:10,914 --> 00:01:12,946 taking a birthday trip with your teenager 30 00:01:12,946 --> 00:01:22,182 as a parent. So, yeah, here we go. Tip 31 00:01:22,182 --> 00:01:24,914 number one is, from the beginning, I 32 00:01:24,914 --> 00:01:28,034 involved my teen. And so this meant 33 00:01:28,034 --> 00:01:29,558 discussing and involving my teenager in 34 00:01:29,558 --> 00:01:31,926 the trip, planning not only to just 35 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:33,514 increase the excitement and get buy in, 36 00:01:33,514 --> 00:01:35,174 because any of you who are parenting 37 00:01:35,174 --> 00:01:37,446 teenagers know that sometimes the parent 38 00:01:37,446 --> 00:01:39,094 teenager relationship can be a little bit 39 00:01:39,094 --> 00:01:41,486 fraught at times. And if mom suggests it, 40 00:01:41,486 --> 00:01:43,760 then it may not be the best idea out 41 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,934 there. But when I brought up the idea, it 42 00:01:47,934 --> 00:01:52,814 was all around a particular concept of a 43 00:01:52,814 --> 00:01:54,794 place that we could go that I knew that my 44 00:01:54,794 --> 00:01:56,938 teenager would enjoy. Also a place that I 45 00:01:56,938 --> 00:02:00,114 would enjoy. So I threw know pitched the 46 00:02:00,114 --> 00:02:01,954 idea of going to Rio, and it was already a 47 00:02:01,954 --> 00:02:03,474 win from the beginning. Now, that may not 48 00:02:03,474 --> 00:02:05,906 happen for you, but definitely involving 49 00:02:05,906 --> 00:02:07,746 your teenager can help increase the 50 00:02:07,746 --> 00:02:09,494 excitement and ensure the trip aligns with 51 00:02:09,494 --> 00:02:13,106 their interests. It just so happens that 52 00:02:13,106 --> 00:02:14,882 Taylor Swift was going to be playing in 53 00:02:14,882 --> 00:02:17,734 concert in Rio in November, and so it 54 00:02:17,734 --> 00:02:20,466 worked out to know be there for the Taylor 55 00:02:20,466 --> 00:02:22,666 Swift concert, which brought extreme buy 56 00:02:22,666 --> 00:02:24,186 in. Because if you're raising a Swifty 57 00:02:24,186 --> 00:02:25,674 like I am, then, you know, if you know, 58 00:02:25,674 --> 00:02:28,826 you know. So that worked out really well. 59 00:02:28,826 --> 00:02:30,842 And so, yeah, choosing the destination 60 00:02:30,842 --> 00:02:32,646 really was something I sort of did some 61 00:02:32,646 --> 00:02:34,638 legwork on ahead of time. Figured out this 62 00:02:34,638 --> 00:02:36,526 is a place that we could make work 63 00:02:36,526 --> 00:02:38,478 together. And so, fortunately, pitching 64 00:02:38,478 --> 00:02:41,086 the first place worked out. But my husband 65 00:02:41,086 --> 00:02:44,442 is planning a trip with our so we have 66 00:02:44,442 --> 00:02:47,698 twins, right? So the other twin and that's 67 00:02:47,698 --> 00:02:48,974 going to be a completely different 68 00:02:48,974 --> 00:02:50,622 location because that twin wants to go 69 00:02:50,622 --> 00:02:51,906 somewhere completely different. So knowing 70 00:02:51,906 --> 00:02:55,074 your teenager and when you pitch the idea, 71 00:02:55,074 --> 00:02:56,626 making sure it's something that you're 72 00:02:56,626 --> 00:02:58,706 pretty sure they would enjoy, but choosing 73 00:02:58,706 --> 00:03:00,358 the destination number two is that you 74 00:03:00,358 --> 00:03:02,294 want to consider destinations that cater 75 00:03:02,294 --> 00:03:04,166 to both your teenager's preferences and 76 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:05,654 your own. So if it had been somewhere that 77 00:03:05,654 --> 00:03:07,858 I absolutely hated, I wouldn't have 78 00:03:07,858 --> 00:03:09,702 brought that up. It didn't have to be my 79 00:03:09,702 --> 00:03:11,510 absolute favorite place, but something 80 00:03:11,510 --> 00:03:13,654 that I could somewhat enjoy, too. You 81 00:03:13,654 --> 00:03:14,714 definitely don't want to be the kind of 82 00:03:14,714 --> 00:03:16,074 parent that's like, here's my favorite 83 00:03:16,074 --> 00:03:17,898 place and you try to persuade them to do 84 00:03:17,898 --> 00:03:19,926 it. That's not a good idea. It probably 85 00:03:19,926 --> 00:03:21,430 wouldn't work anyway, and if it did, it 86 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:23,070 would just make you a really manipulative 87 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:27,066 parent. So don't advise that. But yeah, 88 00:03:27,066 --> 00:03:29,438 finding a win win, hopefully is always 89 00:03:29,438 --> 00:03:31,294 possible, but also finding a balance 90 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:33,246 between fun activities for them and a 91 00:03:33,246 --> 00:03:35,166 little bit of time for you to relax. Both 92 00:03:35,166 --> 00:03:36,898 of you as well, because especially if 93 00:03:36,898 --> 00:03:38,994 you're going somewhere like we did, 5 94 00:03:38,994 --> 00:03:41,314 hours difference in the time zone and just 95 00:03:41,314 --> 00:03:43,806 the long amount of travel. We flew through 96 00:03:43,806 --> 00:03:46,686 Panama and had a layover in Panama City, 97 00:03:46,686 --> 00:03:48,818 Panama, and then flew to Rio from there. 98 00:03:48,818 --> 00:03:52,270 And it was just a long couple of long 99 00:03:52,270 --> 00:03:53,798 know. So we were tired when we arrived. 100 00:03:53,798 --> 00:03:56,054 And then also the jet lag of five hour 101 00:03:56,054 --> 00:03:57,686 time difference. We wanted to plan in some 102 00:03:57,686 --> 00:04:00,646 time to relax as well as do fun things. 103 00:04:00,646 --> 00:04:02,450 And the third one is budgeting and 104 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:04,874 planning. Unless you're know the very few 105 00:04:04,874 --> 00:04:06,234 people in the world that have so much 106 00:04:06,234 --> 00:04:07,834 money they don't have to think about that. 107 00:04:07,834 --> 00:04:09,674 Most of us have to stick to a budget and 108 00:04:09,674 --> 00:04:11,738 plan that out. And so discussing that with 109 00:04:11,738 --> 00:04:13,754 your teenager ahead of time is really 110 00:04:13,754 --> 00:04:15,306 important. So that not only are you 111 00:04:15,306 --> 00:04:17,098 teaching them how to be financially 112 00:04:17,098 --> 00:04:18,606 responsible, but you're showing them how 113 00:04:18,606 --> 00:04:20,910 you can have money in your budget for 114 00:04:20,910 --> 00:04:22,746 travel. It just so happens in the Adams 115 00:04:22,746 --> 00:04:24,846 Brown family budget, we prioritize travel 116 00:04:24,846 --> 00:04:26,638 in ways that maybe not everybody does. 117 00:04:26,638 --> 00:04:28,686 It's just a high value for our family. 118 00:04:28,686 --> 00:04:31,326 We're all third culture kids. We've not 119 00:04:31,326 --> 00:04:32,946 grown up in families where we just owned 120 00:04:32,946 --> 00:04:36,100 one home and one place for our whole 121 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,806 lives. We grew up traveling and moving 122 00:04:38,806 --> 00:04:40,466 around and travel was important to our 123 00:04:40,466 --> 00:04:41,826 families of origin growing up, and we've 124 00:04:41,826 --> 00:04:43,830 raised our kids that way. So you'll 125 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:47,378 definitely find in our home, we don't 126 00:04:47,378 --> 00:04:50,774 prioritize home decor or nice cars. We 127 00:04:50,774 --> 00:04:52,586 have really old cars that we drive. We 128 00:04:52,586 --> 00:04:54,650 keep them well maintained. We have a great 129 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:57,194 mechanic, but we don't spend a lot of 130 00:04:57,194 --> 00:04:59,734 money on things that some Americans might 131 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:02,426 typically spend more money on. And so we 132 00:05:02,426 --> 00:05:06,414 do prioritize travel also. I do have a lot 133 00:05:06,414 --> 00:05:08,410 of skills when it comes to traveling 134 00:05:08,410 --> 00:05:10,346 frugally mainly because of my whole life 135 00:05:10,346 --> 00:05:11,822 traveling. So I know how to do certain 136 00:05:11,822 --> 00:05:14,802 things cheaply or use my points here and 137 00:05:14,802 --> 00:05:17,330 there. And so in our difference maker 138 00:05:17,330 --> 00:05:18,946 community, I'm going to go into way more 139 00:05:18,946 --> 00:05:22,146 detail about this trip and how I used some 140 00:05:22,146 --> 00:05:25,746 of my Frugal savvy skills that I've honed 141 00:05:25,746 --> 00:05:27,678 over the years of doing a lot of travel 142 00:05:27,678 --> 00:05:29,174 and learning from other people along the 143 00:05:29,174 --> 00:05:32,978 way in my Expat and TCK life. But because 144 00:05:32,978 --> 00:05:35,138 none of those people sponsor my podcast, 145 00:05:35,138 --> 00:05:37,718 I'll do that for our paid difference maker 146 00:05:37,718 --> 00:05:39,094 community. And if you want to check that 147 00:05:39,094 --> 00:05:43,626 out, you can go to Patreon.com A World of 148 00:05:43,626 --> 00:05:45,862 Difference, and we'll have an exclusive 149 00:05:45,862 --> 00:05:47,482 episode there where I go into way more 150 00:05:47,482 --> 00:05:49,066 detail about where we stayed, how we did 151 00:05:49,066 --> 00:05:50,586 the flights, and how we did all of that to 152 00:05:50,586 --> 00:05:51,946 make it work. So if you're interested in 153 00:05:51,946 --> 00:05:53,086 more detail with that, we'll do that 154 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:55,262 there. But yeah, budgeting and planning 155 00:05:55,262 --> 00:05:57,486 number three is really important as you do 156 00:05:57,486 --> 00:05:59,242 this trip together, because it not only 157 00:05:59,242 --> 00:06:02,894 teaches your teenager how to plan, and it 158 00:06:02,894 --> 00:06:04,366 also involves them in the decision making 159 00:06:04,366 --> 00:06:05,886 of how you're going to spend the money. 160 00:06:05,886 --> 00:06:08,334 And that always feels better than mom or 161 00:06:08,334 --> 00:06:09,806 dad making all the decisions. And then 162 00:06:09,806 --> 00:06:11,518 you've got a grumpy teenager because they 163 00:06:11,518 --> 00:06:12,738 didn't want to spend the money that way, 164 00:06:12,738 --> 00:06:15,358 and it really was their birthday trip. So 165 00:06:15,358 --> 00:06:17,206 letting them call the shots within reason 166 00:06:17,206 --> 00:06:18,742 and showing them how much different things 167 00:06:18,742 --> 00:06:22,006 cost and showing them different options. 168 00:06:22,006 --> 00:06:25,414 For my teenager, there was a huge desire 169 00:06:25,414 --> 00:06:28,758 to Jet ski. And so that was something we 170 00:06:28,758 --> 00:06:30,726 had hoped we would put into our budget, 171 00:06:30,726 --> 00:06:33,386 and we had that as a plan. But when we got 172 00:06:33,386 --> 00:06:35,734 to Brazil, we realized you have to have a 173 00:06:35,734 --> 00:06:38,278 driver's license in order to drive a Jet 174 00:06:38,278 --> 00:06:42,566 Ski in the ocean in Brazil. So since my 175 00:06:42,566 --> 00:06:44,646 teenager was not yet 16, didn't have their 176 00:06:44,646 --> 00:06:46,766 driver's license yet, we had to say, oh, I 177 00:06:46,766 --> 00:06:49,854 guess we'll do that next time. But we 178 00:06:49,854 --> 00:06:51,534 wanted to make sure together we made a 179 00:06:51,534 --> 00:06:52,878 plan that was something that was fun for 180 00:06:52,878 --> 00:06:56,042 both of us. On the budget number four, 181 00:06:56,042 --> 00:06:57,826 balancing independence and guidance. This 182 00:06:57,826 --> 00:06:59,746 is huge with teenagers. Once again, I'm 183 00:06:59,746 --> 00:07:02,014 not a parenting expert, so go to the 184 00:07:02,014 --> 00:07:03,486 researchers and the people with PhDs 185 00:07:03,486 --> 00:07:05,314 writing books about that out there to find 186 00:07:05,314 --> 00:07:07,506 more detailed information about this. But 187 00:07:07,506 --> 00:07:09,766 I do know the basic parts that teenagers 188 00:07:09,766 --> 00:07:12,214 really crave independence, but they also 189 00:07:12,214 --> 00:07:13,846 might need some guidance here and there. 190 00:07:13,846 --> 00:07:15,526 Their frontal lobes are not yet developed, 191 00:07:15,526 --> 00:07:18,090 and so they might not understand 192 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:19,514 particular risks involved in certain 193 00:07:19,514 --> 00:07:22,394 things, for example. So, yeah, finding the 194 00:07:22,394 --> 00:07:26,490 right balance between giving them space 195 00:07:26,490 --> 00:07:29,478 and being responsible really is really 196 00:07:29,478 --> 00:07:31,018 crucial in all parenting, but especially 197 00:07:31,018 --> 00:07:34,366 in a trip like this, I don't know, like in 198 00:07:34,366 --> 00:07:37,534 my work that I do as a senior manager in a 199 00:07:37,534 --> 00:07:39,562 tech company, I think about stretch 200 00:07:39,562 --> 00:07:41,374 assignments that I give people. And so 201 00:07:41,374 --> 00:07:43,118 think about this birthday trip as an 202 00:07:43,118 --> 00:07:44,986 opportunity for a little bit of a stretch 203 00:07:44,986 --> 00:07:46,654 assignment with them where you're sort of 204 00:07:46,654 --> 00:07:48,758 doing this model assist, watch and leave 205 00:07:48,758 --> 00:07:50,738 approach with them. So you're giving them 206 00:07:50,738 --> 00:07:51,966 a little more freedom than you would 207 00:07:51,966 --> 00:07:53,074 otherwise give them, but you're not just 208 00:07:53,074 --> 00:07:54,642 like throwing them out of the nest and 209 00:07:54,642 --> 00:07:56,418 saying, bye, do your own thing, because 210 00:07:56,418 --> 00:07:58,038 they do need a little guidance still, 211 00:07:58,038 --> 00:08:02,390 especially at 15, almost 16. So the fifth 212 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:04,790 thing is just when we think about using 213 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:06,966 technology during the trip, every parent 214 00:08:06,966 --> 00:08:09,366 does this differently. There's no manual. 215 00:08:09,366 --> 00:08:11,058 My twins were certainly not born with 216 00:08:11,058 --> 00:08:13,802 little manuals, and we're all trying to 217 00:08:13,802 --> 00:08:16,538 figure this out. I think every parent is 218 00:08:16,538 --> 00:08:18,006 going to want to figure out how to set 219 00:08:18,006 --> 00:08:19,786 boundaries and rules around technology 220 00:08:19,786 --> 00:08:21,546 that they use during the trip to ensure 221 00:08:21,546 --> 00:08:23,598 that they're present and engaged in the 222 00:08:23,598 --> 00:08:25,594 experience. But also, I know that my 223 00:08:25,594 --> 00:08:27,662 teenager really loves a lot of particular 224 00:08:27,662 --> 00:08:31,550 social media and so they wanted to make 225 00:08:31,550 --> 00:08:33,354 sure, especially during the Taylor Swift 226 00:08:33,354 --> 00:08:34,946 concert, they were making videos, that 227 00:08:34,946 --> 00:08:38,290 they wanted to be able to capture that 228 00:08:38,290 --> 00:08:39,426 moment and show their friends when they 229 00:08:39,426 --> 00:08:42,946 got back to school. And so we planned 230 00:08:42,946 --> 00:08:45,598 technology around, bringing extra battery 231 00:08:45,598 --> 00:08:46,946 chargers for phones because we knew we 232 00:08:46,946 --> 00:08:49,606 were going to be in a three hour concert 233 00:08:49,606 --> 00:08:51,526 and get there earlier and be in long line. 234 00:08:51,526 --> 00:08:55,410 So it's going to be like a four plus hour 235 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:57,846 ordeal in making sure we plan that they 236 00:08:57,846 --> 00:08:59,286 were going to be on their phone while they 237 00:08:59,286 --> 00:09:00,806 were enjoying the concert because that was 238 00:09:00,806 --> 00:09:01,994 sort of the experience they wanted to 239 00:09:01,994 --> 00:09:03,926 have. And that's what it means to be a 240 00:09:03,926 --> 00:09:07,882 teenager in 2023, doesn't it? Also number 241 00:09:07,882 --> 00:09:10,294 six is think through the activities and 242 00:09:10,294 --> 00:09:11,434 experiences you're going to have together, 243 00:09:11,434 --> 00:09:13,630 plan activities that really cater to their 244 00:09:13,630 --> 00:09:16,046 interest. So if they love adventure sports 245 00:09:16,046 --> 00:09:17,786 like I mentioned jet skiing, they love 246 00:09:17,786 --> 00:09:20,590 cultural experiences or just exploring new 247 00:09:20,590 --> 00:09:23,166 places. My teenager and me, we don't have 248 00:09:23,166 --> 00:09:25,074 the exact same preferences. So there was 249 00:09:25,074 --> 00:09:27,234 one morning where my teenager just really 250 00:09:27,234 --> 00:09:31,426 was tired and wanted to sleep in. And so I 251 00:09:31,426 --> 00:09:34,286 left them in the hotel to get some extra 252 00:09:34,286 --> 00:09:36,050 sleep that they needed and went on an 253 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:38,418 early tour from my hotel where they picked 254 00:09:38,418 --> 00:09:40,386 me up and dropped me off. And I did the 255 00:09:40,386 --> 00:09:42,066 Cristo rentor, the big Christ, the 256 00:09:42,066 --> 00:09:44,114 Redeemer Statue, and saw the Maracana 257 00:09:44,114 --> 00:09:46,898 Stadium where the Brazilian football team 258 00:09:46,898 --> 00:09:48,874 plays and where the World Cup was held and 259 00:09:48,874 --> 00:09:52,374 this beautiful cathedral. But my teenager 260 00:09:52,374 --> 00:09:54,154 wasn't super interested in those things 261 00:09:54,154 --> 00:09:56,454 and it was time they'd rather spend 262 00:09:56,454 --> 00:09:59,114 sleeping. So we kind of worked that out 263 00:09:59,114 --> 00:10:01,686 between us. But everything that my 264 00:10:01,686 --> 00:10:03,274 teenager wanted to do, I was there with 265 00:10:03,274 --> 00:10:06,562 them. Because I'm an adult, I did need my 266 00:10:06,562 --> 00:10:08,398 sleep. But also I was like, I'm in Brazil, 267 00:10:08,398 --> 00:10:09,566 I just want to do it all. We have 268 00:10:09,566 --> 00:10:10,974 different personalities when it comes to 269 00:10:10,974 --> 00:10:12,446 that, so accommodating that with each 270 00:10:12,446 --> 00:10:15,262 other was important. And then also number 271 00:10:15,262 --> 00:10:17,054 seven, it's important to really document 272 00:10:17,054 --> 00:10:19,274 your trip. So I involved my teenager in 273 00:10:19,274 --> 00:10:20,782 this. There were times where I took 274 00:10:20,782 --> 00:10:22,066 pictures and my teenager's like, I don't 275 00:10:22,066 --> 00:10:23,938 like how I look in that photos. And so I 276 00:10:23,938 --> 00:10:25,358 was like, okay, I'll delete that or I 277 00:10:25,358 --> 00:10:28,366 won't post that one. But also they took 278 00:10:28,366 --> 00:10:29,718 pictures of me and have videos of me. And 279 00:10:29,718 --> 00:10:31,622 so we were able to document our fun times 280 00:10:31,622 --> 00:10:33,526 together. We went onto Copa Cabana Beach 281 00:10:33,526 --> 00:10:35,814 at night and ate seafood by the beach and 282 00:10:35,814 --> 00:10:38,774 then walked onto the beach and took some 283 00:10:38,774 --> 00:10:40,726 fun photos there. And it's important. 284 00:10:40,726 --> 00:10:42,390 Those are memories that we'll keep 285 00:10:42,390 --> 00:10:44,266 forever. And who knows, maybe my grandkids 286 00:10:44,266 --> 00:10:46,186 great grandkids will see those and see 287 00:10:46,186 --> 00:10:47,946 that we were on Copacabana Beach together 288 00:10:47,946 --> 00:10:51,994 back in the day. When we have a 15 year 289 00:10:51,994 --> 00:10:53,750 old in the photo who's now 80, I don't 290 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:55,354 know. These are important things to 291 00:10:55,354 --> 00:10:57,642 document. These are once in a lifetime 292 00:10:57,642 --> 00:10:59,258 opportunities. And as our teenagers are 293 00:10:59,258 --> 00:11:00,586 growing up, we want to capture those 294 00:11:00,586 --> 00:11:03,806 moments. It's really important. And then 295 00:11:03,806 --> 00:11:05,760 it also helps to tell the rest of the 296 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,578 family, here's the videos, here's what we 297 00:11:07,578 --> 00:11:09,118 did. And it kind of helps you do the 298 00:11:09,118 --> 00:11:10,386 storytelling process together and relive 299 00:11:10,386 --> 00:11:13,186 it and it's a lot of fun. The 8th one is 300 00:11:13,186 --> 00:11:16,958 to be flexible and anytime there's travel 301 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:18,626 anywhere, that's important, but especially 302 00:11:18,626 --> 00:11:20,486 with international travel. So being open 303 00:11:20,486 --> 00:11:22,886 to changes and plans or unexpected detours 304 00:11:22,886 --> 00:11:25,670 that could happen, like the jet skiing 305 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:26,998 obviously didn't work out and we were able 306 00:11:26,998 --> 00:11:30,566 to pivot and do something else. And that 307 00:11:30,566 --> 00:11:32,506 included doing something in the spa, which 308 00:11:32,506 --> 00:11:35,146 was a lot of fun. So we were glad that 309 00:11:35,146 --> 00:11:36,554 that budget could go to something else, 310 00:11:36,554 --> 00:11:40,534 which was super fun. Sometimes the most 311 00:11:40,534 --> 00:11:42,374 memorable experiences happen when our 312 00:11:42,374 --> 00:11:45,886 plans go awry and we were able to find 313 00:11:45,886 --> 00:11:47,438 some other things to do which we wouldn't 314 00:11:47,438 --> 00:11:50,190 have done otherwise. So number nine is 315 00:11:50,190 --> 00:11:52,506 just respect their wishes. This is a 316 00:11:52,506 --> 00:11:54,334 teenager, it's not an infant. Your teen 317 00:11:54,334 --> 00:11:56,138 may want to spend some alone time and you 318 00:11:56,138 --> 00:11:57,746 don't have to be vigilant with them all 319 00:11:57,746 --> 00:12:00,146 the time. Or if you're in a place where 320 00:12:00,146 --> 00:12:01,506 they know people, they might want to spend 321 00:12:01,506 --> 00:12:03,650 time with their friends during part of the 322 00:12:03,650 --> 00:12:06,738 trip. So just respect their wishes while 323 00:12:06,738 --> 00:12:08,950 you're making sure that they're safe. And 324 00:12:08,950 --> 00:12:13,254 number ten is reflecting and bonding. 325 00:12:13,254 --> 00:12:15,222 After the trip, it's important to take 326 00:12:15,222 --> 00:12:17,346 time to reflect together on our 327 00:12:17,346 --> 00:12:18,994 experiences. And sharing our thoughts and 328 00:12:18,994 --> 00:12:21,000 feelings can really strengthen our bonds 329 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,326 together. I know from my teenager, when my 330 00:12:24,326 --> 00:12:25,514 husband asked me about the trip, when we 331 00:12:25,514 --> 00:12:28,058 got back, one of the things I said to him 332 00:12:28,058 --> 00:12:29,962 was we have a very different relationship 333 00:12:29,962 --> 00:12:32,166 now than before we took this trip. And 334 00:12:32,166 --> 00:12:34,078 there's something about this trip that we 335 00:12:34,078 --> 00:12:36,106 had a special bond, just the two of us. 336 00:12:36,106 --> 00:12:38,702 We'd never been just the two of us for 337 00:12:38,702 --> 00:12:41,226 that long, away from the rest of our 338 00:12:41,226 --> 00:12:44,126 immediate family. And also being twins, 339 00:12:44,126 --> 00:12:45,626 this was like the longest they'd been 340 00:12:45,626 --> 00:12:49,394 apart from each other, too. And so it was 341 00:12:49,394 --> 00:12:51,218 very special that we had this time 342 00:12:51,218 --> 00:12:52,834 together, an experience that only we went 343 00:12:52,834 --> 00:12:54,286 through together, especially the Taylor 344 00:12:54,286 --> 00:12:56,306 Swift concert, which was incredible. And 345 00:12:56,306 --> 00:12:58,386 it rained the entire time we got out of 346 00:12:58,386 --> 00:13:00,434 the taxi and there was a guy there selling 347 00:13:00,434 --> 00:13:01,826 ponchos, and we immediately put these 348 00:13:01,826 --> 00:13:04,006 ponchos on and wore them for a while, but 349 00:13:04,006 --> 00:13:06,646 we got soaked. Even his ponchos, it was 350 00:13:06,646 --> 00:13:09,570 just like so rainy and crazy. But my 351 00:13:09,570 --> 00:13:12,310 teenager was such a Swiftie, they were 352 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:14,646 screaming so much of the time. And then 353 00:13:14,646 --> 00:13:16,186 there's this moment when Taylor Swift came 354 00:13:16,186 --> 00:13:18,906 up and sang right to my teenager, and I'm 355 00:13:18,906 --> 00:13:20,266 not sure they're ever going to get over 356 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:23,206 it. It was pretty crazy during the song 357 00:13:23,206 --> 00:13:26,046 Antihero, which is up for a Grammy, and it 358 00:13:26,046 --> 00:13:27,486 was super special. And we went through 359 00:13:27,486 --> 00:13:28,942 that together, and we experienced that 360 00:13:28,942 --> 00:13:30,318 together. And I think there's something 361 00:13:30,318 --> 00:13:32,958 especially about music and international 362 00:13:32,958 --> 00:13:35,650 travel, trying new foods. We had a lot of 363 00:13:35,650 --> 00:13:38,786 acai, we had a lot of Brazilian steak, 364 00:13:38,786 --> 00:13:42,126 which is amazing, and just fun 365 00:13:42,126 --> 00:13:43,502 experiences. We were in a heat wave in 366 00:13:43,502 --> 00:13:45,298 Rio, where they had to the first night of 367 00:13:45,298 --> 00:13:47,474 the Taylor Swift concert you probably read 368 00:13:47,474 --> 00:13:48,726 about in the news because it was all over 369 00:13:48,726 --> 00:13:51,478 the news. Several people passed out from 370 00:13:51,478 --> 00:13:53,590 the heat, and one person actually passed 371 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:55,974 away. Her name was Anna. And then the 372 00:13:55,974 --> 00:13:57,526 second night, the Saturday night concert, 373 00:13:57,526 --> 00:13:59,606 they ended up canceling. And our concert 374 00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:01,034 was the next night, the Sunday night, and 375 00:14:01,034 --> 00:14:03,062 it had cooled down about ten degrees 376 00:14:03,062 --> 00:14:06,602 Fahrenheit and then was raining, and so it 377 00:14:06,602 --> 00:14:09,014 was able to go on. And they changed the 378 00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:10,682 rule with the stadium where they could 379 00:14:10,682 --> 00:14:13,486 provide free water and open up the airways 380 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:16,574 a little bit to get more airflow. So it 381 00:14:16,574 --> 00:14:18,186 was great. Other than the rain, we 382 00:14:18,186 --> 00:14:20,026 couldn't complain. We were completely 383 00:14:20,026 --> 00:14:21,914 hydrated. My teenager also got a 384 00:14:21,914 --> 00:14:23,626 friendship bracelet from Sabrina 385 00:14:23,626 --> 00:14:25,258 Carpenter's mom, who Sabrina Carpenter 386 00:14:25,258 --> 00:14:27,258 opened for Taylor Swift, and Taylor 387 00:14:27,258 --> 00:14:28,766 Swift's dad was handing out these Taylor 388 00:14:28,766 --> 00:14:30,418 Swift guitar picks, and my teenager got 389 00:14:30,418 --> 00:14:32,450 one of those too, so it was very special. 390 00:14:32,450 --> 00:14:34,066 So my teenagers coming back, telling all 391 00:14:34,066 --> 00:14:35,826 their teenage friends at their high school 392 00:14:35,826 --> 00:14:40,054 about all they did, and I overhear them 393 00:14:40,054 --> 00:14:42,134 say, and then my mom was there, and it was 394 00:14:42,134 --> 00:14:43,654 really special that I got to experience 395 00:14:43,654 --> 00:14:47,206 that with my teenagers. So, yeah. I offer 396 00:14:47,206 --> 00:14:50,954 all of this to you as just a story of what 397 00:14:50,954 --> 00:14:54,060 we experienced, some tips we came up with 398 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:57,962 together, things that we would do again in 399 00:14:57,962 --> 00:15:00,234 terms of how to do a trip like this and 400 00:15:00,234 --> 00:15:03,646 once again join our difference maker 401 00:15:03,646 --> 00:15:05,354 community. If you want to hear more 402 00:15:05,354 --> 00:15:08,014 details about how I specifically planned 403 00:15:08,014 --> 00:15:10,554 this out by using points and which hotel I 404 00:15:10,554 --> 00:15:13,386 chose, there's a lot of options in Rio 405 00:15:13,386 --> 00:15:14,702 specifically, if you're thinking of going 406 00:15:14,702 --> 00:15:16,218 there. So there's Copacabana Beach. 407 00:15:16,218 --> 00:15:18,794 There's Ipanema. There's another few 408 00:15:18,794 --> 00:15:20,238 smaller, lesser known beaches. All around 409 00:15:20,238 --> 00:15:22,526 and then there's the city of Rio itself. 410 00:15:22,526 --> 00:15:24,782 And so we had all these different choices. 411 00:15:24,782 --> 00:15:26,466 So I'll going to more detail about why we 412 00:15:26,466 --> 00:15:28,406 chose to stay, where we did, what airline 413 00:15:28,406 --> 00:15:30,646 we flew, how we made that work, the routes 414 00:15:30,646 --> 00:15:32,358 we took, and the things we decided to do 415 00:15:32,358 --> 00:15:33,606 when we were there. So we'll talk a little 416 00:15:33,606 --> 00:15:36,034 bit more about that and our Difference 417 00:15:36,034 --> 00:15:37,942 Maker community, which is an exclusive 418 00:15:37,942 --> 00:15:40,198 space where we do a little more deep dive 419 00:15:40,198 --> 00:15:42,598 content for those of you who want to pay 420 00:15:42,598 --> 00:15:44,662 as little as $5 a month to be a part of 421 00:15:44,662 --> 00:15:46,342 it. And we have different tiers of 422 00:15:46,342 --> 00:15:49,414 different exclusive content you can be 423 00:15:49,414 --> 00:15:51,054 able to access there and it's a lot of 424 00:15:51,054 --> 00:15:52,398 fun. We love the difference maker 425 00:15:52,398 --> 00:15:54,350 community. So I do. It means a lot to me 426 00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:55,966 and I appreciate every one of you who are 427 00:15:55,966 --> 00:15:58,446 there and how we go a little bit deeper. 428 00:15:58,446 --> 00:16:00,174 So, yeah, we'll go deeper onto some Lori's 429 00:16:00,174 --> 00:16:01,534 travel tips around this. We'll do a 430 00:16:01,534 --> 00:16:03,070 special episode there just for you 431 00:16:03,070 --> 00:16:05,738 Difference makers. Anyway, I hope this was 432 00:16:05,738 --> 00:16:08,322 helpful. If it was, please let me know 433 00:16:08,322 --> 00:16:10,402 also if you have additional tips or have 434 00:16:10,402 --> 00:16:12,274 taken a trip with your own teenager or 435 00:16:12,274 --> 00:16:14,034 also just love birthday trips in general, 436 00:16:14,034 --> 00:16:17,362 which I personally do most years. When I 437 00:16:17,362 --> 00:16:19,550 ask for something for my birthday, I just 438 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:21,814 say I want a trip for the last many years 439 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:23,302 because I'm more of a trip person than a 440 00:16:23,302 --> 00:16:25,922 present person, more of a collector of 441 00:16:25,922 --> 00:16:28,822 memories and experiences and things. So 442 00:16:28,822 --> 00:16:30,278 that means a lot to me and I was glad to 443 00:16:30,278 --> 00:16:33,046 do it with my teenager, too, this time on 444 00:16:33,046 --> 00:16:34,794 16th birthday, which is kind of a big 445 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:37,338 deal. So, yeah, let me hear from you. Let 446 00:16:37,338 --> 00:16:38,874 us know if you have your own stories, your 447 00:16:38,874 --> 00:16:41,322 own tips. And yeah, in the meantime, I 448 00:16:41,322 --> 00:16:42,886 know there's a lot of travel going on 449 00:16:42,886 --> 00:16:45,758 around this holiday season, so if you have 450 00:16:45,758 --> 00:16:48,206 more tips on traveling in general, let us 451 00:16:48,206 --> 00:16:50,480 know about those on social media. You can 452 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,082 find the Aworld of Difference podcast on 453 00:16:53,082 --> 00:16:55,806 Instagram at aworldof difference. And you 454 00:16:55,806 --> 00:17:01,026 can find us on Twitter at awadpod awodpod. 455 00:17:01,026 --> 00:17:04,354 And you can find me on Twitter at loriadbr 456 00:17:04,354 --> 00:17:08,306 or Instagram at brown. Yeah, we'd love to 457 00:17:08,306 --> 00:17:10,214 hear from you also on threads on both of 458 00:17:10,214 --> 00:17:12,534 those as well. So, yeah, reach out. Let me 459 00:17:12,534 --> 00:17:14,710 know if you have any thoughts around this 460 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:17,254 episode, if it brought up any stories in 461 00:17:17,254 --> 00:17:19,510 your own experience that you'd love to 462 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:20,954 share. And we can share tips with each 463 00:17:20,954 --> 00:17:23,062 other about how to take trips with your 464 00:17:23,062 --> 00:17:25,530 teenager, especially on a birthday trip. 465 00:17:25,530 --> 00:17:27,142 Anyway, for all of you who are 466 00:17:27,142 --> 00:17:29,706 celebrating, lots of things out there, 467 00:17:29,706 --> 00:17:31,910 whether it's birthdays, getting ready for 468 00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:34,026 Advent, Christmas, Hanukah, a lot of 469 00:17:34,026 --> 00:17:35,566 Americans just celebrated Thanksgiving. I 470 00:17:35,566 --> 00:17:37,870 know there's a lot of celebrating going on 471 00:17:37,870 --> 00:17:40,734 everywhere. 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